SQUIDs employing short (

) ultra thin weak link sections of "granular" niobium and niobium nitride have been prepared on cylindrical quartz substrates by rf and rf reactive sputtering, photolithography and anodization. These SQUIDs have demonstrated near ideal intrinsic noise characteristics when biased at 20 MHz. Niobium nitride devices have operated with this nearly intrinsic noise at temperatures up to 12.5 K. Current-phase relation and flux entry versus applied flux were measured on one niobium SQUID. Results indicate a nearly [if not exactly] sinusoidal current-phase relation from T
cto almost a degree below T
cand flux entry noise in good agreement with the intrinsic flux noise theory. Biasing these devices at 9.2 GHz gives a degraded response which can be related to relaxation effects in the weak links. Thermal noise switching between the superconducting and dissipative states was also observed at 9.2 GHz and could be fit by a simple model.